Forbidden Riffs: The 9 Most BANNED Songs In Guitar Stores

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For this article, let’s say you are a novice guitarist. Even if you’re a pro, we’ve all been there. I remember a surprising amount of detail about the birthday on which I finally got my first electric guitar.

I was turning fourteen, and for months leading up to that fateful day in May, I looked at catalogs and visited guitar shops whenever I could. In my youth and naivete, I probably broke the cardinal sin of guitar shop visitors dozens of times.

If you don’t know what that cardinal sin is, this article is for you. If you are familiar with the cardinal sin I’m referencing, then stick around anyway because there’s sure to be something here for you.

In this article, we’ll cover:

  1. The origins of the forbidden guitar riff
  2. The story behind Wayne’s World’s take on the forbidden guitar riff
  3. The nine riffs you shouldn’t play in guitar stores.

THE FORBIDDEN RIFF: A MEMOIR

My introduction to the guitar is possibly the single most perfect anecdote for opening this article. My first instrument was the violin. I was lucky enough to attend a public middle school in southeastern North Carolina with a terrific string orchestra led by an outstanding teacher.

My mother’s friend brought over a violin the night before I started the sixth grade and, though I originally thought I’d be a great bass player, I joined the orchestra as a violinist.

My teacher taught us novices alongside the kids who had studied privately before sixth grade. She caught us up, and we played quite well within a year.

In the summer before eighth grade, I borrowed my dad’s Led Zeppelin II CD and took it on a car trip to Maine. It was the only thing I listened to for that whole trip. I played it repeatedly, and to this day, I could probably riddle off the track list and the lyrics to each song from memory.

I became obsessed with Led Zeppelin and gradually saved up to buy each of their CDs.

When I returned to school, I told my teacher about how my relationship with music changed. She was particularly responsive to our musical interests, so she found an orchestral arrangement for Stairway to Heaven. Moreover, there was a guitar part in the score, and she would audition the guitarists in the class to find a soloist.

I played around with my mother’s acoustic guitar here and there as I learned the violin. There’s a lot of overlap in how the instruments are played, which makes it easy to get started.

That said, I wasn’t quite ready to solo in front of people yet, so I went straight to work learning Stairway to Heaven.

Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin would not have recognized what I was playing, but I did my best. I learned Stairway to Heaven to the exclusion of anything else.

Whenever I had the chance, I played Stairway to Heaven, clueless that what I was playing was widely understood as the forbidden guitar riff.

In the end, I did not get the part–perhaps it was bad karma from having broken the cardinal sin on so many occasions–so I had to be content with playing as part of the orchestral accompaniment.

Nonetheless, this was a formative experience in becoming the musician I am today.

FORBIDDEN RIFFS IN GUITAR STORES (A LIST)

With time, other songs have been added to the list.

As it stands, these are some of the most iconic songs considered to be forbidden guitar riffs in guitar stores:

  1. STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN – LED ZEPPELIN
  2. SMOKE ON THE WATER – DEEP PURPLE
  3. IRON MAN – BLACK SABBATH
  4. SEVEN NATION ARMY – THE WHITE STRIPES
  5. FREEBIRD – LYNYRD SKYNYRD
  6. SMELLS LIKE TEEN SPIRIT – NIRVANA
  7. WONDERWALL – OASIS
  8. SWEET CHILD O’ MINE – GUNS N’ ROSES
  9. BACK IN BLACK – AC/DC

Can you think of any we missed? Let us know what we should avoid playing at Guitar Center in the comments!

1. STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN – LED ZEPPELIN

“Stairway to Heaven” was released in 1971 as part of Led Zeppelin’s untitled fourth album. It was co-written by Jimmy Page and Robert Plant and features three sections of music, each section faster than the last.

The forbidden riff comes from the tune’s first section, which is slow, reflective, and typically finger-picked.

The full song is nearly eight minutes in length, which prompted The Guitar Store in Seattle, Washington, in a reversal of the unofficial universal policy of forbidding the forbidden riff, to offer 15% off to anybody who comes into the store and plays Stairway to Heaven in its entirety without any mistakes. 

2. SMOKE ON THE WATER – DEEP PURPLE

Deep Purple is widely recognized as one of the heavier rock bands that formed the proto-metal era of classic rock.

Their biggest hit, “Smoke on the Water”, is about a fire that broke out in a casino in Montreux during a show featuring Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention in 1971 (the ‘smoke’ of Smoke on the Water).

Deep Purple was in Montreux at the time recording tracks using a sound truck they had rented from the Rolling Stones.

This same town, sitting on the banks of Lake Geneva (the ‘water’ of Smoke on the Water) is where Queen recorded seven studio albums.

The iconic power chord riff of “Smoke on the Water” is both one of the easiest and most recognizable riffs in guitar history, making it an obvious thing for someone in their first few weeks of learning guitar to practice, as well as an obvious candidate for the list of forbidden guitar riffs.

3. IRON MAN – BLACK SABBATH

“Iron Man” came out in 1970 as part of Paranoid, Black Sabbath’s second studio album. Depending on whom you ask, Black Sabbath is the original heavy metal band or a deeply influential proto-metal band. “Iron Man” is simple yet incredibly heavy.

The story goes that Ozzy Osbourne heard Tony Iommi playing the riff in rehearsal one day and said it sounded like “a big iron bloke walking about.”

That idea began the theme around which Geezer Butler, the bassist, wrote the lyrics to the song. The central riff, composed of power chords that, for a beginner, can be simplified to a single note melody, was destined to be included among the forbidden guitar riffs, just like “Smoke on the Water.”

It is iconic and much more approachable for a beginner than Stairway to Heaven, making it lower-hanging fruit for a new guitarist hoping to get kicked out of a guitar store for the playing of forbidden guitar riffs.

4. SEVEN NATION ARMY – THE WHITE STRIPES

“Seven Nation Army” was released in 2003 as part of The White Stripes’ fourth studio album. The song won the Grammy for Best Rock Song at the 46th annual Grammy Awards.

The central riff was called the best riff of the decade by a writer at Rolling Stone. This is another one of those incredibly simple riffs that are playable for a novice within a few weeks of learning guitar. Jack White is a brilliant musician, but his songs are not known for complicated instrumentals.

It sounds like a bass line, but Jack White achieved that sound using a pitch shifter.

Teenagers taking a trip to Guitar Center will play this riff, forbidden though it may be, as single notes up an octave from the original since it would take a lot of convincing to get a Guitar Center employee to plug a pitch shift pedal into your signal chain without a guarantee that you’ll buy something after–especially if you’re in the store playing forbidden guitar riffs–or as power chords.

5. FREEBIRD – LYNYRD SKYNYRD

Stereotypically, we think of the annoyance around “Freebird” originating with an obnoxious audience member shouting it at a band as a request. That said, the opening riff to the tune is iconic and instantly recognizable to a classic rock aficionado.

What keeps it on the forbidden guitar riffs list, if it is included at all, is that it ought to be played with a slide and it’s a little more complicated than most of the other riffs on this list.

Having lived up North for the past thirteen years, I might have just forgotten my southern roots. Still, when thinking of Lynyrd Skynyrd, I am more inclined to think of the “Freebird!” shouted by a bored audience member than the “No Freebird!” shouted by a hypothetical Guitar Center employee.

6. SMELLS LIKE TEEN SPIRIT – NIRVANA

“Smells Like Teen Spirit” is another one of those oh-so-simple yet iconic power chord riffs. It is staggering to think of how much music has been built on top of a mostly power chord foundation.

The four chords and rhythmic sequence that comprise the bulk of “Smells Like Teen Spirit” are practically universally recognizable. This is surprising because “Smells Like Teen Spirit” was not intended to be a crossover hit.

Of the two singles before Nevermind in 1991, “Smells Like Teen Spirit” was the first, and “Come As You Are” the second. The plan was for the latter single to possibly make a dent into mainstream radio, but “Smells Like Teen Spirit” became incredibly popular.

Its ascent in the charts, alongside the full Nevermind album, is widely understood to mark the moment grunge went mainstream.

7. WONDERWALL – OASIS

Anyway, here’s “Wonderwall.”

The fact that “Wonderwall” has its own joke, akin to “No Stairway” tells you everything you need to know about the forbidden nature of the 1995 Oasis hit. It is relatively easy, so many folks who were learning guitar in the late 90s and aughts picked it up as their first full song.

In the awkward stage between bringing your guitar to parties with one full song under your belt and learning enough songs for people to want you to bring your guitar to parties, Wonderwall figures prominently in countless one-song setlists.

Likewise, it has a well-deserved place among the forbidden guitar riffs, even if it is most recognizable for its vocal line over a simple chord progression.

8. SWEET CHILD O’ MINE – GUNS N’ ROSES

The iconic lead at the start of “Sweet Child O’ Mine” is one of the most-played and worst-played riffs, and guitar store employees have heard enough of it.

It is fundamentally a pretty simple riff in terms of rhythm and structure, which makes it alluring to newer guitarists, but it has a sort of etude quality to it, requiring some finger gymnastics fairly high on the neck.

Newer guitarists hoping to impress their friends by dragging them to a guitar store and playing the lead from “Sweet Child O’ Mine” must maintain the pulse to avoid the most common pitfall with this song.

Practice the riff at a relatively slow tempo to maintain the pulse, then gradually work the whole thing up to speed. This is how to be slightly less annoying when you show up at the guitar store.

9. BACK IN BLACK – AC/DC

Three power chords, four notes, one of them bent, the same three power chords, and a few more notes lead off “Back in Black”, and guitar store employees are tired of hearing them.

The compound nature of the riff, part power chords, and part lick with a bent note, means this is one of the riffs where newer guitarists will pick up one part of the riff more easily than the other part.

This makes it particularly grating for guitar store employees, as the trickier parts of the riff are consequent phrases to the power chord antecedent phrases.

To hear the antecedent played clearly and in time, and then to hear the consequent phrase butchered, is tough on the soul of a musician.

FORBIDDEN RIFF: ORIGINS

The concept of the forbidden riff originated as an inside joke among staff at music stores on London’s Denmark Street in the early 1970s.

Music store salesmen noticed a developing trend: it was becoming increasingly common for novice guitarists to walk into stores and ask to try out guitars.

They all wanted to play the same thing: the beginning of Stairway to Heaven by Led Zeppelin.

This is not an easy riff for a novice guitarist. Probably you have some idea of how practicing sounds: pulse falls off as a guitarist manages to play a part of a phrase in tempo but has to slow down for another part, the guitarist accidentally mutes a note or plays the wrong string.

As a music teacher, I listen to a lot of practice. I probably hear more practicing than finished music. It is hard listening to people practice; it requires a lot of patience. 

Guitar store employees grew increasingly fed up not only with hearing the same melodic fragment repeatedly but also with hearing it played poorly. What followed was a joke, but it was the type of joke that had a serious undertone: the forbidden riff.

The first was Stairway to Heaven, but more were soon added. Whole Lotta Love, another Led Zeppelin song, made the list early on.

WAYNE’S WORLD

Over time, the notion of forbidden guitar riffs in guitar stores spread outside of London, bringing more people into the inside of the inside joke. The forbidden guitar riff concept gained even more prominence with Wayne’s World.

Wayne and Cassandra are in a guitar store and Wayne picks up a white Fender Stratocaster and picks a few notes before the store clerk silences his strings and points to a sign that reads, “NO STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN.”

The scene below is taken from the film:

The discerning viewer will notice that the fragment in the clip sounds nothing like Stairway to Heaven, though. The especially discerning viewer will notice that what Wayne plays on the guitar looks nothing like what you hear.

The story behind the mismatch between the sound and the appearance of the riff has to do with Led Zeppelin and Warner Music Group’s refusal to allow the film rights to the music past two notes.

In the original theatrical run of the film, there is a much more convincing Stairway in this scene, but in the VHS release and all subsequent distributions, there is a shoddy dub over that sounds nothing like the actual forbidden riff.

Regardless of the artistic merit of the overdub, the joke landed well enough that the line, “No Stairway… Denied” is every bit as legendary as, “We’re not worthy” and, “Party time, excellent.”

This scene thus brought even more people into the inside of the inside joke and might be the first official acknowledgment: “Stairway to Heaven banned in guitar stores.”

GUITAR CENTER FORBIDDEN RIFF LIST

The good news for aspiring guitarists is that the Guitar Center Forbidden Riff List does not exist. Smaller, independent shops might have their own policies, but I could not find an official Guitar Center Forbidden Riff List anywhere.

This is good news, as forbidden guitar riffs are fair game in one of the country’s largest retailers of musical instruments and audio equipment. If these large stores allow the commonly forbidden riffs in guitar stores to slide, then it must mean the music world is a little more inviting than it might seem.

Perhaps there are musicians who would prefer music to be a more exclusive undertaking. Perhaps the guitar center employees are the unsung heroes of opening music up to everyone, including the novice guitarist. Still, I would like to suggest that the fact that the Guitar Center Forbidden Riff List does not exist must be a net positive.

As long as there is no Guitar Center Forbidden Riff List, guitar playing remains open to beginners, and everybody has to start somewhere.

WRAPPING UP

Ultimately, the concept of forbidden guitar riffs is just an inside joke. Nobody will get thrown out of a guitar shop for playing an annoying riff or for playing a great riff annoyingly.

That said, it is an inside joke based on the preferences of guitar store employees.

The most important thing to keep in mind when visiting a guitar store is to be kind and not waste too much of the guitar store employees’ time before either buying something or being on your way.

Still, it doesn’t hurt to keep the idea of forbidden guitar riffs in the back of your mind, because, though it is a joke, it is one of those jokes based on truth.

Before heading out, check out our post on bands that sound like Led Zeppelin.

New to guitar? Here are 7 easy one string songs that definitely aren’t banned (well, maybe a couple are)!

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Noah Teachey

Based in NYC, Noah has performed all over the city as a guitarist, violinist, violist, and vocalist, and collaborated with artists from across a broad spectrum of genres. When he isn’t teaching at a public school in the Bronx or composing for film projects, chances are he’s out running or rowing to bounce new ideas for tunes around in his head.

63 Comments

  1. People in the 70’s always tried Voodoo Chile, but only one has it down on record and he’s passed too.

  2. Stairway to Heaven by Zappa is much, much better, guitar solo replaced by brass section must be so difficult, but, the band make it sound easy, fantastic, I was lucky enough to hear this live 😊

      • Hey now, that’s the first song I ever learned on guitar, and I just started playing it again after 20 years of being too good to play something that simple. Aim still playing the same guitar, with a broken bridge (I have the e and a tied together to keep the e on the board. Frets worn down so much half my string buzz. Maybe it’s time for a new guitar. I’ll have to play this list when I go into try them out.

    • Obviously you have never had a job in retail. We all said that kind of thing when we first started. Then, day after day, through every amp, on every untuned guitar, at unnecessarily loud volumes especially for beginners, it almost becomes an art form the different ways people destroy these already overplayed anthems, and how. If you try to make it better by offering at least to tune for them, now you get to enjoy what feels like an eternal poorly done by ear torturous tuning harmonic never ending cacophony of hell at of course the volume of it goes to eleven loud. Trust me, it IS bothering people!!! Everyone within ear shot!

    • If I worked in a music shop, I would add:

      Enter Sandman
      Nothing But a Good Time
      More Than Words
      Plush
      Longview (bass riff)

      • I was buying a go100 at a pawn shop one day and some guy was doing the bass to ramble on. I quickly grabbed an acoustic tuned it to his guitar and we jambed that song out with the whole store focused on us. I’ve never played with other people, but we kept time quite well.

    • Tr here is a video you should watch that ties into this. Music Is Win on YouTube. Search for Playing the forbidden riff in huge guitar store.

  3. Yeah, I totally get why a music store/guitar shop/ private home owner would not want this list of mindless dross played by a novice guitarist, it’s the same tasteless stew stirred round the same unwashed pot and infinitum.None of these pieces convey guitar mastery that also invokes an emotional response on any level.In my book I would ban the lot of them…..although there are elements and short passages of Stairway that could be acceptable if worked on….neh, maybe not.

  4. The one guitar part I want to learn, and have since I was a kid in the ’70s, is Terry Kath’s riff in “25 Or 6 To 4” by Chicago. Kath is my guitar hero, he was criminally underrated by the press, but Jimi Hendrix told Chicago their guitar player (Kath) was better than Jimi himself.

  5. Without a doubt the opening to mean Streets from Van Halen’s Fair warning. In the key of e I believe

      • Megalovania, bigshot from deltarune.
        anything from sonic the hedgehog.
        It’s weird how often we ignore any music that you can’t find at a music store, cause I’ve heard people literally just start playing videogame soundtracks on a guitar. And like, Y’know what? It sounds good sometimes.
        However, when you’ve heard megalovania for the 5th time, it’s a bad time.

  6. Don’t work in a guitar store if you don’t want to hear beginners, or anyone else, play those riffs/chord progressions. I can’t stand when I hear people shit on beginner guitar players. We were all beginners at one time.

    • Yes, but beginners always play out of tune TOO LOUDLY!!! When I’m out of practice for a little while and I feel like I might be rusty, out of courtesy I don’t even use an amp until my fingers warm up! I can hear myself well enough unplugged even on the bass. There should be a law that you can’t use an amp until you’ve been playing two years minimum. It would be good for everybody. Not just the innocent bystanders but for the learning player themselves because an acoustic is a good karate kid like challenge to strengthen your fingers with the bigger neck and it forces you to hear what you’re playing without any bells or whistles so you can tell what notes and chords are without distortion confusing you. Then you earn your way to electric with nice strong karate kid fingers. Show me paint the fence! Show me wax on! Wax off! Show me bar chords! Show me power chord! Now grasshopper, you may plug in… My violin teacher didn’t let us use the bow for about 6 months until we learned where the notes were by plucking on a fretless violin neck. Unfortunately it’s still pretty loud next to your face like that with a violin. Trust me, so many of us would have quit right away out of pain because you can’t turn down the volume when you’re bowing not by much. It was less painful for all involved plucking at first especially those that were front row for the very beginning of us learning which was the student themselves your face is right in that pain!! Until you learn how to bow, the magic of rosin the much-needed KY jelly of the stringed bow instruments, and where your fingers go to make actual notes and not the noises in between the notes that really hurt your ears and teeth on a high strung instrument it loud volume.

  7. I’m One by Metallica should be on the list. That’s all I taught budding young axe stingers when that song came out.

  8. All these songs, but none of them are lame pop country songs. Why would you think people would rather listen to that garbage all day long over these iconic rock anthems?

  9. I guess you were all born great guitar players and never annoyed anyone with your sour notes. Sounds like a lot of exclusive guitar players trying to keep guitar playing exclusive to themselves. I guess you are the true guitar heros

  10. So, if I play any of these listed “BANNED RIFFS FROM GUITAR SHOPS” in any guitar shop, do I get a free guitar while getting kicked out?
    😎👍👍
    Always Good Vibes From Las Vegas, Nevada.
    Sincerely, Tom Weidler

  11. Let the beginner play something badly. He or she very well might return having honed a talent and buy lots of gear at your store. They remember how patient the employees were and then they have money, talent, and family for whom they want gear, the customer has the money and spends a lot of it with you.

    Just request the bad shredder respect all merchandise.

  12. Tuesdays gone
    I am the highway
    Opossum Kingdom
    Sex and candy
    I’d love to change the world
    Santaria
    Fell on my face ( original name of the song before corporate changed it to black days)
    My wave
    No more Mr nice guy
    The weight
    Night they drove old Dixie down
    Doesn’t remind me
    Spoonman
    Aneurysm
    Poly
    I’m sure there’s more but those are my favs to play off the top of my head

  13. Ain’t talkin bout love..van halen..and jump intro for keys..
    Skynyrd should be sweet home Alabama..freebird was just a joke about it always being requested
    Kinks..you really got me..
    Stones..jumpin Jack flash
    I’m gonna stop here because I’m being in-undated with so many pop up ads it’s absurd..good list btw

  14. Are you talking about Voodoo Chile, or Voodoo Chile (Slight Return) ?
    It goes without saying that Jimi, the absolute MASTER OF THE STRATOCASTER played both, but seemed to play “Slight Return” much more.
    Next in line would undoubtedly be Stevie Ray. who I’m grateful to have seen multiple times back in the 80s. Never heard him play Voodoo Chile, but he definitely CRUSHED “Slight Return”. And we cannot forget Frank Marino and Mahogany Rush Frank had amazing skills, and he REALLY could pull off that “Hendrix Flavor”, just like SRV. I saw them back in June of ’79 at the New Haven Coliseum with Ted Nugent opening. Helluva Show. And again, much later, in July of 2008 in Bay Shore NY. There’s an absolutely outstanding version of Voodoo Chile on YouTube…Well worth the one minute search.
    And Rock Royalty, Eric Clapton and Steve Winwood played it at a Crossroads Festival. Smokin, to say the least.
    Moving on, as far as “Forbidden Riffs” go, I doubt anyone wouldn’t recognize the first 1 second of “Layla”.
    Personally, I don’t think any of these, or ANY songs should be “Forbidden” Never judge a book by its cover or you’ll miss “up and coming” stars in their early days, such as Derek Trucks, who was NAILING Duane’s Slide on the second half of Layla when he was 10 (or youngr). Same for guys like Johnny Lang, Quinn Sullivan, and more. Just let people PLAY. The next guitar “sensation” might just find their way into your local Guitar Center and blow everyone’s mind.
    How about the first couple of notes from “Back in Black” ?
    SO recognizing it’s crazy…and for good reason, just like the rest, and more.

  15. Agreed. Just once go in pick out a guitar pay for it try it out and while trying play 5 of the forbiddens. Any b*tch*n either gets squashed or refunded. Sell guitars,buy earplugs.

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